I can’t really talk about this stuff on bluskeii but I’ll just ramble here. I had a conversation a long time ago about why I started to dislike the porn art coming out of the previous fandoms for which I have been a member. (furry, Anime)
“fetish stacking” as I had discussed with others, became officially known as “co-morbidities”. These Co-Morbidities are what ruined my desire as a porn artist to be associated with other porn artists.
Now, what do you do when porn is your drug, your dopamine hit? Where you’re in this place after many years, and you need stronger and stronger hits, weirder, more novel stuff to get the same neurological responses?
I think that is what happened to a lot of people. Regular porn stopped being nearly as interesting, and the primary fetish also stoped being as interesting. Folks start stacking 2,3,4,5 sub fetishes on top of their primary ones, till the art looked bat shit insane. That art then, no matter how good it is, cant be used as regular porn for anyone other than the folks who also have these exact checkmarks.
I understand that, considering how long it takes to do any kind of art well enough, that these people have earned the right to their interpretations. If I bitched directly to them asking to change things, id look like a greedy asshole with 700 pizzas, pissed that I cant have this other guy’s pizza.
A lot of art just isn’t for us. Its for the artist. Just like my own machine porn was never meant to be porn for anyone other than myself and very rare specific people. The mechaphillia thing also runs on a spectrum: 
(Anything less then a 3 or a 4 is non committal)
Im also a filthy fetish stacker though, I am not immune to the same criticisms I gave others. I do deal with a boat load of crazy DM’s tho. Folks trying to connect with me based on perceived like-minded attraction. I tore my hair out trying to figure out why I was attracting certain people to my DMs when the art they consumed had no real sexual similarities to what I was trying to communicate. I actually wish people wouldn’t use “Dire_Machine” as an e621 tag when they have no idea what Dires are.
why was Hyper Obesity, showing up in my timeline? “Oh shit, is this because one party usually outweighs the other tenfold?” (Right but thats because they are tanks and airplanes. This doesn’t have anything to do with fat people.)
It hit me to identify all of my sub-kinks that erroneously attract the wrong people, and maybe that would explain the mismatch.
Mechaphillia/Teratophillia are my Primary. Some 50/5o triple-washed salad mix of monster machines. And this goes back to that chart above about the many shades of machine attraction and their different focuses. “Focus and subtext are king” here. Some folks said it was “scary” just how detailed the machine pictures were. That it was at the very least, a High-effort troll job. I only give these machines the exact same effort the common man gives when rendering a pair of tits. It’s detailed as fuck- because we love everything about them. The art celebrates them, and you can see this emphasis based on the amount of time spent in certain places (or lack of time spent).
Sub-kink: Hurt/Comfort. This is a kink you mostly only find in fan fiction, and that’s because its harder to depict without huge context. Its the idea you can use sex to heal physical or mental wounds. Some will argue that its not about the sex at all, but in the context of corrupting alien machines, its literally about healing gun shot wounds with nookie. The healing comes from nanomachines. One of the perks of banging a fighter jet that talks.
Sub-kink: Size difference. Not to be confused with macro fetishization, It tickles me when one party member is much bigger than the other. A “Gentle-giant” be it boy or girl, is much appreciated. I wanna be bear hugged. I wanna be overtaken like a fat mother hen engulfing her chicks to keep them warm.
Sub-kink: Interspecies. This one is a must. One party needs to be a human. The other party needs to be not human. Alien x man, Dragon x woman, Greater eldritch monster x human, is infinitely better then two people banging. Or two machines banging. All I gotta do is check the Harkness test for legal combos.
Sub-Kink: Physical/Neurological Corruption. This one is a story only kinda kink. Because physical corruption is pretty serious, and for some people it’s actually terrifying. There probably is some kind of conceptual body horror focus behind this, because it existed in my Edenworld comic too. At least my reasoning for the Grey limbs, the G. Neuron stuff is that, if you are willing to let this happen to you, it’s a kind of serious dedication to the monster. It’s allowing the vampire to bite you, the Lycanthropy to take hold of you.
This is a much lighter version of TF (transformation) kink where people completely transform into other things. I don’t want people transforming completely into other things, because it’s important that one person stays human no matter what to stay grounded in reality.
all this bullshit Aside, id be a hypocrite for ripping on people’s kinks when mine are just as weird. I just don’t wanna see other peoples kinks on my SFW blog.
What strange nasty kinks do you guys have if you found this art? Let me know in comments if you have thoughts adjacent, or if you just like the emotional aspect of it.
PS. RIP Akira Toriyama, DBZ and Chrono Trigger were big parts of my childhood and you will be missed.
The bit about detail made me chuckle a bit.
I once commissioned a non-mechanophiliac artist for something involving my tank-persona and it got drawn without any of the sensors, antennae or vision ports. Just a camo patterned box. It felt so cursed I had to MS-paint atleast something on there myself because the poor thing didn’t have his “eyes” or “ears”.
I would also like to turn in my bingo-card for the sub-kinks. So on the spot, wish I’d read this sooner!
@Brisky: I will try an add more thoughts onto the website soon. (I should have made a comment regarding Atoll Lab “Broke” completion but just mucked about on bluesky instead. https://bsky.app/profile/ratbat.bsky.social
I try not to talk about sub-kinks outside of private channels, and not all kinks are created equal imo. But its fun to sort of give people context to the imagery. It’s too bad that you have to be hard core on the nose to get what you want with machine comms. Lotta people just dont pay attention to em.
Honestly, with the cooling of the Cars community, It’s manly your stuff that keeps living machines/Car style Stories still in my head, just mixed with furries floating around , and I doubt that will ever change
@Dually: It sucks that without constant reinforcement ( Investment into quality IP towards these subjects) people kind of lose object permanence, they go consume other more popular stuff that makes the studios big money. Its just kinda the way it is I guess. You wont see any more LM stuff until Pixar decides they need to make a billion more dollars offa bed sheets for children.
I’ve had a TF kink forever but I never really felt right with losing all sentience while doing so. My TF into vehicle kink grew more recently and I think there’s a bondage stacked on top of that, what with only being able to move wheels, flaps, treads and turrets etc. I have given many kinky thoughts to a dire-on-TFed-vehicle though…
@lewdtant : I see, so its a dynamic that works best if you are something else then?
I’ve always been a type 4 mecha, for machines with expression features. My kicks, well, still the same ones as when I 1st found out to be mecha as an early teen:
I get over excited by extreme speed. So fast machines like fighter jets turn me on like a fire.
Then there is some kind of instinct in me that wishes to mate with something much stronger than myself, something that can protect me as well as completely overpower me at the same time.
And last, there is just the appearance. I feel attracted to certain ‘body features’ of machines. That is usually sleekness and big mighty engines. That’s just a pure physical thing that drives me insane so bad that I can orgasm at just the thought of mating with such a machine.
@Galileo: I think you and I were probably separated at birth. Your description of how I feel about these machines is dead on. The Power, the Kinetic nature, the speed- its the full package. Real forms you can see flying loud and proud at airshows. I figure you likely have no desire to mar these beautiful forms with humanoid forms either. (Probably why you are here 😉
Was it Jets first? Or some other machine?
Yep, I felt an instant ‘welcome home’ on this here site.
Before, I roamed around many sites in search of the non-humanized forms ready and willing to fuck this here horny Dutchwoman. Finding gold was easier IMHO. 95% of them look like either fat metallic women or metallic men on an overdose of steroids. Not the turn-on I needed.
Here, I find them pure, mighty, and very, very eager to get some serious playful erotic ‘maintenance’.
Jets were definately first. As a teen, watching an airshow always got me wet. Watching the maintenance after the show drove me wild with desire to touch their sleek jet bodies and discover all their sweet spots. I fantasized how they’d roar with pleasure at my touch. That’s when I knew: I’m a mecha!
The shuttlecraft Galileo from Star Trek is my ultimate crush. Those huge engine nacelles, you know… so irresistibly attractive! 😉
oh man, startrek terran ships are definitely a style. I liked Battle star Galactic stuff too (the newer ones) you like the smooth form-fitting metal silhouettes don’t you?
Big Boss supremacy
Still love your stuff, it really tickles some nice parts of my brain and I keep wishing I could *write* more than a few words or disjointed scenes! Problem is that at this point I have a whole AU in my head x_x
Ratbat: Thanks lorventus. 🙂 i need the encouragement rn, and it sounds like you do too.
As someone on the periphery of this subset kink in the terms of xeno-terato-phile your works are intriguing, not wholly hitting all my receptors but I really, really like and appreciate your appreciation to consent and mutual approval. Too many artists are just in the humiliation non-con field. Whatever they stack its still gargabe, nothing. I’m for the weird physiques coming together to figure out the 1-2-3 steps. I also appreciate you’re still soldiering on despite your misguided fandom and frankly being disgusted with them. I could say I’m seeing you across from the bar and giving you an enthusiastic thumbs-up because you doing do is an air refreshener to the bar at large.
The thing i really love about these sort of things is i have a thing for when the characters mutually respect and love eachother in a preexisting relationship. Porn where 2 beings are just fucking eachother for no reason is alot less hot than porn that was proceeded by atleast some attempt at romance. Like just having a panel where one character gives the others flowers is enough, they just need to be some bond other than a purely sexual one to be hot.
What you’ve said here really makes me stop and think. Perhaps this has a lot to do with why I too (as a mechano/monster primary) have never seemed to find a place that didn’t end up fractured with people just spamming whatever it is *they* wanted to see. Even in terms of having a machine kink as a primary kink, you may also have different tastes in what kind of machines or monsters, individually, of course. I gave up many years ago on finding much likemindedness in that way but I want to say thanks again for your art because, even though we have a different taste when it comes to what machines we feel most drawn to, it did help me feel not as alone back in the day. I definitely originally found this site because I’m attracted to certain kinds of monster-like machines irl. God I would give them my life. Not generally tanks but I’m perpetually giving you a handshake as a fellow German-made tracked giant/monster-like machine lover. you may have been responsible for furthering my German accent kink though, not going to lie about that. Anyway, I hope you continue to find joy in your art. I am a writer myself and haven’t updated my LM-esque porn story in over a year, whoops. Definitely sadly it seems no one’s gonna make that content perfectly the way we want ah. I hope things get better though
Unfortunately I think this inability to find “your people” has just been exacerbated by the threat of data being stolen without consent that AI poses to the art community. Fringe groups will get pushed into private discords that are invite only. Tumblr and reddit are at risk for being scraped now and some folks just don’t advertise (like myself). Their are other kinds of monster machines btw, Warhammer 40k anyone? If you want anything really conceptual its not ever going to come from the thick everyman slurry we have now. If I may rant, “have never seemed to find a place that didn’t end up fractured with people just spamming whatever it is *they* wanted to see” this quote is Super real. There is no space interested in staying on topic without devolving into basic big titty/big asses furry porn, (Aeromorphs are included in this, fuck those things) or worse content. With such a small number of artists dedicated to this kinda thing, regular people get bored easily without constant stimulation, those porn circles drift away from their original intent, and people like you, and I get drowned out like the silent minority we are. I don’t know how to fix this either. If your an artist starting your own discord group and being very vigilant on who it is you allow in is probably the only way to go. Curation is necessary here. Furthermore, without Normies LM is doomed.
God I would love to converse with you further someday … apologies for not replying before, my life irl is insanity these days. U have a discord right? If ur interested in having a convo with a fellow lifelong machine lover that would be cool! I’ve been a fan of yours since 2015! You can find me at renegademechanic/renegademechanic#5475 (hope that works, I’m not the best at discord).
“stacking 2,3,4,5 sub fetishes on top of their primary ones, till the art looked bat shit insane.”
You managed to put into words something that’s been bothering me for some time. So much porn art is so extreme, so exaggerated, so unreal? There’s no appeal for me. It feels grotesque. (< says the person searching for and making eldritch porn art… I'll take my hypocrite card now)
My problem is this type of art is inescapable no matter what subject you search for. There's like 1000 huge titty ass monsters with a bunch of sub fetishes for every one that actually looks like a monster. And there's no easy catch-all to filter out this type of art. Man. At some point the monster fetish feels tamer than some of the sub fetishes I've seen. I just want to find 'purely' monster x human art without the other fetishes. The only way is to make the stuff myself. Start polluting the water with what I want to see(hence the username haha)
Cough. Anyways, back to the topic,
'Co-morbidities' reminded me of another fun chart
https://spinejackel.blog/post/174774819650/editoress-fischotterchen-shizzajizz-hey-i
For me the kinks are inter-related. I like everything on that chart except the furry and FNAF robot category. Masked people too. So if they have a certain degree of non-humanness. The monster thing also facilitates other kinks like being hugged/grabbed tightly during sex. The male losing control as he's about to cum. Primal mating instinct(?)
I mentioned the 'female gaze' before, the emotional aspect is also a big part of it for me. They could be anything as long as the emotion is there and I'd be into it. That's part of why I like your art so much haha
Have you heard of Fayren btw? It might be up your alley. Machine men and no big titty monsters to obstruct your veiw: https://twitter.com/fayren most of them are still quite humanoid however- but its something. As for the grotesqueness of todays drawn porn, its how it all “feels” that bothers me. You have a huge population of folks saying they are “lonely” and then you look at the art they consume, and its a circus of bullshit with no actual intimacy found. But I actually agree with just about everything you’ve said here. Places that you would think would be great repositories for anthromophized art, are mistagged to hell and back. (Don’t ever go to e621 btw) I checked out your ever growing venn diagram of kink too lol. I’m going to venture and guess that Beast turning back into a handsome prince by the end of the Disney movie also fucked with you too huh? I’ll never forgive them for that.
All we can do is just make art for us and hope people find it somehow. Sub-kink stacking and all.
I’ve tried to describe it using a million words but I’ve always failed to encapsulate it right, but I’ll try again to say what I find appealing that I find in your art.
I’d say it starts with size difference, but really it’s the contrast as a whole. Beast being compared to someone small and innocent. It’s this desire from someone/something so much bigger and stronger, that sees something in the smaller one. To be more than a target/ally/whatever by someone/something that could turn you into a blood smear across the pavement… I guess the most relatable example is Hiccup – Toothless from How To Train Your Dragon, but it’s not entirely on target there.
There’s more to it for me, and it’s in that contrast nugget I talked about too. I’d add in some linesof degradation. Obviously, being the smaller weaker one is the appeal, but I like how your art doesn’t go through that “worthless sub slave” route. I want to feel small, but I don’t want to be worthless. But… even in saying that, I do like the idea of being pushed around and being compelled to do things by a lethal beast for its enjoyment. There has to be reward or heart in it for the sub. Even if it comes in the form of aftercare from a degrading act or something that was for the beasts own please, it’s important to feel wanted and valued…? I said that already…
I’m sorta losing the plot as my brain gets ahead of my typing skill, so I’ll wrap it up with one last corner of this gushy feely story. It’s that, hroughout the submission to a beast and it’s difficulties, in the end the smaller submissive grows to be… tamed by the beast? Stockholm syndrome I guess, but in a good way? Not looking for the exit, being willing to stay and even pushing back on the beast in a playful way. I wouldn’t go as far as to say a power shift, or call it “brat” behavior. But I just find something immensely hot about sorta being equal with a beast at the end of the day.
In conclusion, I want a Super Hornet to make me lick their towhook clean, but afterwards we’ll cuddle and in the morning we fly together or something. Bonus points if it’s a living carrier for more story funsies. (I’m new to your art, I’m from the world of furry and ncd. I hope I’m not bombing your comments with this essay)
@cinder I super feel you about how hot the intrinsic power dynamic can be with human x non human. Riffing off what you mentioned with the “worthless sub/slave” thing is why I don’t like some Kobold porn art for example. People go extra hard on the servile nature of the relationship between them and the dragon, but those relationships aren’t really quality irl (the Dragon doesn’t actually care about you, you are “Just Another hole to them”). If I want to see that kinda stuff I’ll just go look at pornhub. I really want some measure of equality in the relationship. (Even if the other is soo strong they could crush you in a moment) You accept the monster- and they accept you. Its not an easy relationship, but toghether you get to go on a journey, explore each other’s very different bodies. No one get’s monster raped, the ride is passionate, and wild, Everyone is happy. Sex is monstrous and fun ect.
Also Super hornet?? Navy Guy? You ever see one in real life? They are dragon sized. It’s awesome.
I have to say I got to agree with a lot of what you’re saying here, and as for my dark secret kink…. I just like dommy gals and cuddling ngl
@... Clog: man that is a big big draw for a buncha people here. I actually don’t know if it has a pop culture name, but “very strong women” vibe totally with guys that just need things “to be easy” just get “Claimed” by the denizens inside the lion’s den. Big confident, powerful ladies no matter the shell they inhabit. You aren’t alone.